OPEN THREAD 20191201

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Citizen U

Day 25 – MANGANESE.

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  1. Ummmmm……

    There is no comment count, and the format is somewhat confusing — in a different, but similar way to the way the previous format was somewhat confusing. But I’m hoping this comes out as a comment on the 12/1 open thread.

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        1. That’s what I’m thinking. After a couple of wild lurches, let people see what it’s like if it’s basically the same as what they’re used to. How does that feel?

          If it makes people more adventurous, we can venture out. But if there is a massive sigh of relief…..

          Maybe we just tinker with this one.

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      3. I wondered if that’s what you’d done when I first opened the page, and scrolled down just a bit to find out yes you did. It is easier because it is familiar, BUT I am okay with experimenting too. It just takes some figuring out on both ends about how to navigate in a new setting and what works and doesn’t work.

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    2. Potassium permanganate is an amazing oxidizer. It’s basically two metals, one of which wants nothing to to with oxygen, the other holding way more than it needs, ready to THROW THAT STUFF AROUND.

      Useful as a SURVIVAL TOOL:

      https://www.intherabbithole.com/potassium-permanganate-the-most-useful-survival-chemical/

      Kinda like the chlorates used to create chlorine dioxide, also useful for treating water (probably better than permanganate, but not sure). I had periodate tablets back in the day. All of these are superoxidized central atoms.

      Useful in chemistry because of its strong color as a visual indicator.

      Interesting factoid I did not know:

      Potassium permanganate can be used to oxidize cocaine paste to purify it and increase its stability. This lead to the Drug Enforcement Administration launching Operation Purple in 2000, with the goal of monitoring the world supply of potassium permanganate; however, potassium permanganate derivatives and substitutes were soon used thereafter to avoid the operation.

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  3. OK, then.

    The ancient Greek area of Magnesia is on the East Coast of mainland Greece, just northwest of the island of Euboea. It is dominated by the Pagasetic Gulf — a large, round body of water connected to the Aegean by a narrow passage. In literature, Magnesia is the homeland of heroes Jason (of the Argonauts), Peleus (because of his son), and Achilles (the son). The name of the region, Magnesia, is derived from the name of the tribe that occupied the area — the Magnetes. Its principal agricultural products today are wheat, cotton, tomatoes, grapes, olives, apples and honey. It is a major producer of steel and concrete, and has one of Greece’s busiest ports.

    It is also famous for rock collecting. The word “magnet” and the element names “manganese” and “magnesium” are all derived from the name of this region because someone picked something off the ground.

    Manganese is never found in nature in an isolated form — it is always found in combination with something else. That said, it is the 12th most abundant element in the earth’s crust. It is important to several biological processes. Manganese has a long history as a coloring agent — including some of the pigments used in the Lascaux cave (17,000 years old).

    But 85+% of modern manganese production goes into steelmaking. It is used in low-cost stainless steels and tends to make steels that are harder, but not more brittle.

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      1. Kanklemala was supposed to have this in the bag. I am now certain that “she was the one”. Human joke Biden was in the race to elevate her. Hollywood pulling out all the stops for Harris (see the most recent episode of “FBI”, which pushed a Kamala defense plot on illegals as stay-in-the-country informants, to cover up and reverse the narrative of the case in San Francisco that is haunting Kamala).

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  6. Manganese !

    Manganese Blue ! 😀

    as an artist , I love Manganese Blue because it is perhaps the truest blue on the spectrum….

    it’s light and airy and can be used straight out of the tube…unlike the other beautiful blues that tend to be more opaque, and need to be mixed with other hues.

    True Blue…

    ❤

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    1. I just started reading about it. Amazing stuff! Looks like only one place still makes the real thing.

      What do you think of YInMn Blue, also known as Oregon Blue, also based on manganese? The color is really different. I have to agree – Manganese Blue is really excellent. Looks like some of my fave colors of turquoise stones, actually!

      Links:

      Amazon availability:

      https://www.amazon.com/Blockx-Manganese-Blue-Paint-35ml/dp/B0006OR8GE

      Discussions of difficulty obtaining:

      http://cameo.mfa.org/wiki/Manganese_blue

      http://forum.cheapjoes.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=25&page=1655

      YInMn Blue:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YInMn_Blue

      https://news.artnet.com/art-world/chemist-mas-subramanian-on-the-incredible-discovery-of-yinmn-blue-973700

      Artist discussion of blues and “hues”:

      https://janeblundellart.blogspot.com/2014/08/watercolour-comparisons-8-blues.html

      https://www.amazon.com/DANIEL-SMITH-Extra-Watercolor-Manganese/dp/B001PTAVEU

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      2. learn something every day and it isn’t even noon yet !

        first I’ve heard of the gorgeous YInMn Blue…fascinating and yummy. 🙂

        great links there, too… Daniel Smith paints are top of line..

        forgot to also mention Manganese Violet as part of the family..

        (courtesy Daniel Smith)

        🙂

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  8. So, in Mozilla on linux, the little square that appears next to the tab name in the tab has changed from a little fiery dot to a shadowy dark circle on black. I’d love to be able to grab you samples, but I don’t know how to do that.

    Again, it’s only in the tab area and not on the actual page. Could you change it back?

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              1. i used to correct my sister’s spelling all the time, she called me a nerd, I hit her with a dictionary…she cut my bangs when I slept…sigh…so I kinda let that stuff roll off my back…LOL

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  11. HELP…something very weird just happened to my 2 posts way upthread, Replying to patfrederick…

    the format morphed into something bizarre that I’ve never seen before !

    no idea how that happened .

    if anyone wants to delete all that = ok

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  12. where…

    …GOD has been replaced by Goddess Greta…

    WARNING : The Democrats Have Found A New Sink Hole In Which To Plunge America

    article…

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/warning-the-democrats-have-found-a-new-sink-hole-in-which-to-plunge-america

    12/01/2019

    FTA : The picture now becomes crystal-clear why Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats made no move to reign in Green New Deal-crazed AOC…[her] job-killing Green New Deal was digging the hole into which the Democrats could jump, to hide from their BIG FAIL Trump impeachmenr brouhaha…

    and : Anyone who is against the transfer of wealth in this not-so-new Marxist scam will be …accused of being against the world’s poor.

    this upcoming week, that big jump will be in Madrid at the UN Summit …to hear a call for rich nations to pay “Climate” Reparations.

    even Pope Francis will get in on the farce.

    first it was : Global Warming

    then it was : Climate Change

    and now it’s : the transfer of wealth from developed countries to needy nations …

    “needy” nations victimized by the weather.

    read more on this, at the article link.

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    3. Every time I see that child, I think she’s got no female hormones.

      I have a cover pic of LeAnn Rimes when she was 14 and she was … shall we say … very well developed. Even at eleven, she was more obviously female than this huckster.

      She can go do whatever she wants – I am uninterested.

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  13. Are we ever going to talk about …………………….. ?

    It’s all “Real” Right?

    Consider that you can see less than one 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum and hear less than 1% of the acoustic spectrum. As you read this, you are traveling at 220 Km/Sec across the Galaxy. 90% of the cells in your body carry their own microbial and are not “You”. The atoms in your body are 99.9999999999999999% empty space and none of them are the ones you were born with. Human beings have 46 chromosomes, 2 less than a potato.
    The existence of the Rainbow depends on the conical photoreceptors in your eyes; to animals without cones, the rainbow doesn’t exist. So you don’t just look at a rainbow, you create it. This is pretty amazing, especially considering that all the beautiful colours you see represent less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum.
    ~ Sergio Toporek

    “Every second, 11 million sensations crackle along these [brain] pathways …The brain is confronted with an alarming array of images, sounds and smells which it rigorously filters down until it’s left with a manageable list of around 40. Thus 40 sensations per second make up what we call reality.” ~ Wonderpedia Magazine

    “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” ~ Nikola Tesla

    “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking Inside a radio for the announcer.” ~ Nassim Haramein

    In the 16th century René Descartes famously said, “Cogito ergo sum” (I think, therefore I am), sending us deep into a love affair with the rational, analytical aspects of our brain for centuries.

    The brain is the ‘thinker’ ……………………… Consciousness is the ‘knower’ ……………………….

    Neuroscientist Dan Siegel defines the mind as “an embodied and relational process regulating energy and information flow.” We are embodied, receiving information from our bodies that plays a key role in awareness. We are relational, shaping each other through mirror neurons and multi-sensory information. And we exist within a constant flow of energy and information, being impacted by everything around us.

    Consciousness, awareness, enlightenment, etc., are who we are. But when our brains are dis-integrated, chaotic, rigid, overloaded with stress chemicals, etc., we can’t access this birthright.

    ‘Reality’ is ……………….. Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. ~ Albert Einstein

    We live in a virtual reality universe… a hologram… ?

    ““What is REAL?” asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. … When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real.” ~ The Velveteen Rabbit

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  14. Another story about manganese:

    Apparently, there was a big fuss in the late 70s about “manganese nodules” on the ocean floor. I heard about this because I had been shown (in a geology class) sandstone with a large purplish spot on it. That, I was told, was formerly a seabed and the dot was a manganese nodule that had become covered by sediment and then, of course, the whole thing turned into a rock the way sandstone generally forms.

    Apparently, a deep sea sub was built by Howard Hughes, ostensibly to mine those nodules. It was a cover for the real mission, which was to retrieve a sunken Soviet sub and get its code books. They were able to raise the sub, but the section with the code books broke off and was lost. A number of Soviet seamen’s corpses were in the part that was brought to the surface, and were given a funeral with full military honors.

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  15. Manganese is also one of the few perfectly-well-behaved metallic elements that elementsales.com has not managed to make a coin out of. Much too brittle to strike; it’d be like trying to stamp ceramic (AFTER it has been fired!).

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      1. osmium is another one that’s just too brittle to stamp into coins.

        And as for iridium, the claim has been made that a sufficiently long bar of iridium , held up, would snap in half rather than flex, even a little bit, under its own weight. Check out the periodic tables video on iridium (you probably will, anyway, in about fifty two days).

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  16. Oh, and another one:

    Manganese was part of the “war nickel.” Partway through 1942, the mint changed the “nickel” from 75% copper, 25% nickel, to 56% copper, 35% silver, 9% manganese. This persisted through the end of 1945.

    They tended to be well-made; with the steps on Monticello mostly visible (unlike most regular nickels of the time), but they tended to turn black with age, like silver, and just generally look ugly unless well preserved.

    They can be identified instantly by the large mint mark over the top of Monticello. Even Philadelphia, which had never used a mint mark before, put a large P on its issues.

    (Shown: A San Francisco issue. Big S over the dome on the reverse.)

    [Up until 1964, the mint mark, if not a Philadelphia issue, appeared as a very small letter tucked in to the right of Monticello. No mint marks were used from 1965-1967, in 1968 it began to appear below the date on the obverse.]

    The goldish coating on our present-day “golden” Sagcagawea and presidential dollars–the innards are pure copper–is “manganese brass”, 77 percent copper, 12 percent zinc, 7 percent manganese, 4 percent nickel. This was done so that the coin as a whole would have the same magnetic response as the old clad-crap Susan B. Anthony dollars (known as “Carter Quarters”). If you have no idea what I am talking about here, it’s because the dollars were rejected by the public in 2000 but the mint keeps making them anyway, and some mass-transit systems in big cities still use them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea_dollar

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      1. In many cases, old one dollar (1849-1889) and 2 1/2 dollar gold pieces (1796-1929, though in practice the ones from before 1834 are VERY rare), the former quite a bit smaller than a dime, the latter almost exactly the same diameter as a dime post 1828, owe their current existence in high grade to the fact that people would buy/receive them as gifts and therefore put them aside, rather than spending them.

        Those were far, far more valuable in those days than a dollar is today (and let’s not even touch on their present-day collector’s value, sometimes far exceeding their “melt” value in pure gold).

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          1. Indeed, all wonderful stuff.

            Another popular option is a proof set, for a pair of recent parents. The kid gets a birth year set! But it will not include the silver eagle. (Actually you can get either a “regular” proof set or one where the “silver” coins (dime, quarter, half dollar) actually are silver.)

            The silver “eagle” comes in three grades: bullion (you have to go to a coin shop or ebay to get these, no direct-to-public mint sales), uncirculated, and proof.

            I don’t care for the name “eagle” here, because, dammit, “Eagle” is the name given to the ten dollar denomination in the original act of 1792 that created our system. Ten mills made a cent, ten cents made a disme [dime], ten dismes made a dollar, ten dollars made an eagle. (So the old $20 gold piece was also called a double eagle.)

            Post civil war, some stabs were made at making ten eagles equal something new called a “union,” there was even thought of a mondo 2 and half ounce gold coin called the half union.

            But yes, plenty of stuff available from the mint (I’m very aware of it, but I’ve let you advertise it for the benefit of others who might be reading).

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    1. Interesting – but I take this with a grain of salt. No – maybe a BAG OF ROCK SALT!

      The other side keeps trying to wedge Trump and Pence apart. It is SUCH a con job. SOWING DISTRUST.

      The other side tried to play Pence from LONG before the election. Standard manipulations. Standard creation of distrust. Standard sowing of divisive information. Standard FORCING Pence away from POTUS.

      They briefed him on SOMETHING, and it doesn’t matter whether it was related to Spygate or not – it was the FIB’s RIGHT to do it, and Pence’s DUTY to take the briefing. They play us for fools on this stuff, tricking US into committing friendly fire.

      Pence always did the right thing in these plays, as nearly as I can tell. He HAS TO do the “Sessions” thing – or better – at all times. He cannot “defend Trump” in even the TINIEST unethical or questionable way, or HE will be removed, and will no longer have Trump’s back.

      It is only because Pence is a man of God that he can withstand all this stuff. I am sure that Pence was lied to, and I think it will be coming out very shortly! That is my guess – that both Pence and Rosenstein were lied to by McCabe and company.

      We’ll see. At any rate, I still trust Pence, and will believe he is innocent until proven guilty. I will give him every bit of “wait for the facts” that I give to Trump!

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  19. Word Press recommends other blogs on Word Press when y9u write something or y0u search articles. I have learned that there are a huge number of two types: of blogs: (a) biblical – of every iteration and viewpoint and (b) anti-Trump bubble-dwelling jerks who collect a group of fawners and then pontificate on the failings of all things and people who “Trump”. I usually ignore them but this one “The Weekly Sift” got me to read the first paragraph of this week’s epistle and I was ready to go. So I wrote a reply. I copied and pasted it here because I know it will last maybe an hour on that site – all fascists believe in purging opposing ideas. I hope you enjoy my venom. I enjoyed writing it. Also, if you want to go onto that Word Press site and further mess up their milquetoast cocktail party have at it. “The Weekly Sift”” Here is my post in full:

    I read this screed with shame-faced amusement that I once subscribed to the identity-driven, self-obsessed, self-propagating silliness that runs up and down this piece and the entire thread. With the perspective of 50 years oif living in the Northeast, the benefit of the absolute tip of the private education system, 28 years as a private business-person in Massachusetts, access to the highest levels of business and government and every other advantage that such a life and business could engender, including a doctoral degree, I can say with absolute assurance that that the author and his coterie of fawning sycophants are so full of shit it would take the entire snowstorm crew on full alert for a blizzard at Logan Airport to make a dent in the steaming pile this word salad resembles.

    Fuck you, as well. Strong ;letter to follow.

    When you start with a conclusion: all Trumpsters are either idiots or ideology driven cultists – or both – it is a simple exercise in self-delusion to write the justification that “supports” the pre-ordained conclusion. Have you ever been to a Trump Rally or do you simply see red hats and alpha males that scare your UU-world of cocktails and simplistic conformity?

    But my favorite is “climate change”, the most loaded term in the liberal iconography. To you “climate change”: is code for: We know better and we will tell you exactly what to do because we know you are stupid. Add in “denier” and you then get the created straw man: The stupid, red-neck, knuckle-dragging, homophobic deplorable idiot who has no right, title or reason to oppose top-down imposition of non-defined, ridiculously-expensive, untested solutions to a problem you cannot define. To steal a trenchant comment: “Climate Change: a 4.5 billion year-old, on-going problem that only a tax today can solve.”

    Now, before y’all jump back and start in on me, remember, I am one of you until I learned I wasn’t. I am just your reality turned back on you. I know how you think; I used to think like that too. I was luckier than you. A God with a sense of humor and purpose sent me into the real world with real people like Jefferson’s educated farmer and Adam’s bar-keep confidant. Y’all haven’t a clue and, while I have no illusions about the current president, he is one of you too. And he so gets you and so do we, out here where reality lives, that you haven’t a chance.
    So, I’ll leave you with this. I’m laughing as I write this. Laughing at the president’s tweets, the fact that he lives in all your heads rent free 24/7/365, your facile self-delusions and your empty purposeless existences. I am so filled with satisfaction to have cleansed.

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