OPEN THREAD 20200402

Basically, all legal free speech is allowed. We will assist the authorities in dealing with illegal speech. You are each other’s moderators. Have fun. And don’t forget to MAGA at nuclear levels.

After going through the elements, we now enjoy a sequence of RANDOM somewhat pseudo-random topics that will be thrown out for investigation and commentary on each open thread. At some point, in a way something like composite numbers, I will accidentally hit a second occurrence of one of them – that’s just normal.

Have fun!

Citizen U

(a.k.a. W on the OTHER site)

Day 148 – Nitrosamines

12 thoughts on “OPEN THREAD 20200402

  1. Welp.

    Obviously somebody with a real education in organic chemistry can wander by later, point, and laugh…..but, sure…..

    Nitrosamines are a class of molecule built around a nitrogen atom. That atom has three “hooks”, leading to simple molecules like NH3 (ammonia). In a nitrosamine, one of the “hooks” goes to another nitrogen atom, which then uses two “hooks” to bond with an oxygen atom (which has two “hooks” of its own).

    Just about anything can be attached to the first nitrogen. It can have two methyl groups (CH3) — which forms a molecule called NDMA — formula (CH3)2NNO — which can also be called “N,N-Dimethylnitrous amide”. That substance is a volatile yellow oil that is a direct hepatic (liver) poison and strong carcinogen with a maximum allowable concentration in drinking water of 7 ng/L. Since a liter is a thousand grams, this means that a sample of water is contaminated if NDMA is eight trillionths of its composition by weight.

    NDMA is one of those molecules that have been “hiding in plain sight” forever. It is found in meats cured by nitrites, it’s found in tobacco smoke, it’s found in fish and beer, and it is frequently produced as a side-effect of water purification using chlorine or chloramine. It was only 1956 when its unhealthy effects were discovered — and subsequent testing showed that 90% of some 300 nitrosamines tested were carcinogenic across a broad spectrum of animals.

    An amusing little side note — the digestion of meats can produce nitrosamines in the stomach and gut. For lean meats, this is impeded by the presence of vitamin C. For fatty meats, the presence of vitamin C makes it worse. So you can feel good about your veal piccata, but DO NOT dump a grapefruit in the stew.

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  2. Rabbi, I think my wife is trying to poison me!

    “Moishe, I think you may be exaggerating”, said the Rabbi.

    “No, I am pretty sure of it, Rabbi!”

    “Ah, don’t be such a drama queen, I’ll talk to her”.

    Rabbi goes to another room to talk to man’s wife. He comes out about 30 minutes later and says: “You know, after talking to your wife I can see I was wrong – and you’re actually right. My advice? Take the poison.”

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    1. At a bar in Miami, two retired guys from Long Island meet by happenstance and start up a conversation, Quickly they realize they are both originally from New York.

      Murray: “The wife. She is shopping for socks for the grandkids. I needed a drink”

      Marty: “My wife. She is shopping too. She needs underwear. She makes me need a drink too. How did you come to be in Miami?”

      Murray: “My business was in Garden City. A laundromat. There was a big fire. I lost everything. We took the insurance money and moved here.”

      Marty: “Oy, vey! That’s awful but what a coincidence. My business was in the Hamptons. We sold rugs for many years. Three years ago there was terrible flood and everything was destroyed.”

      Murray: “I’m so sorry but at least you are safe. But Marty, you must tell me. How is it you start a flood?”

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  3. Becky prepared a pasta dish for a dinner party she was giving. In her haste, however, she forgot to refrigerate the spaghetti sauce, and it sat on the counter all day. She was worried about spoilage, but it was too late to cook up another batch.

    She called the local Poison Control Center and voiced her concern. They advised Becky to boil the sauce again.

    That night, the phone rang during dinner, and one of the guests volunteered to answer it. Becky’s face dropped as the guest called out, “It’s the Poison Control Center. They want to know how the spaghetti sauce turned out.”

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  4. A calm, respectable woman walks into a pharmacy. As she walks in, she goes right up to the pharmacist, looks him straight into his eyes and says, “I would like to buy some cyanide.”

    The pharmacist asks her, “why in the world do you need cyanide?”

    She replies, “I need it to poison my husband.”

    The pharmacists eyes got really big and he exclaimed: “Lord Have Mercy! I can’t give you cyanide to kill your husband. That’s against the law. I’ll lose my license,they will throw us both in jail. All kinds of bad stuff will happen. Absolutely not. you CANNOT HAVE ANY CYANIDE.”

    The lady then pulls a picture out of her purse showing her husband in bed with the pharmacist’s wife. The pharmacist examines the picture for a couple minutes, sighs and hands it back….

    Then he says, “Well, now, that’s different — you didn’t tell me you had a prescription.”

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  5. Too short:

    When I was a kid, Santa gave me a lump of coal. The next year, I poisoned his cookies. Somehow, the bastard found out and killed my dad.


    A boy scout asks his scout leader, “Sir, is this snake poisonous?” The scout leader replies, “No, that snake’s not poisonous at all.” So the boy picks up the snake, which bites him and the boy starts to spasm and foam at the mouth as the other kids look on in horror….

    The scout leader continues, “….but that snake is venomous. Poison is ingested or absorbed, while venom is injected. Let’s get it right next time, boys.”

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  6. A man is sitting at a bar, staring at his drink, not moving. After about 20 minutes of this another man notices and walks over and grabs the drink from the man and gulps it down. He sets the glass down and looks at the man he just stole from, waiting for a reaction. The man who had his drink stolen slowly turns to the man who took his drink and says,

    “I’ve had a really bad day. My alarm clock didn’t go off this morning so I was late to work, which got me fired. When I went to drive home I found my car had been stolen. In the cab I took to get home my wallet fell out and I lost it. When I get home I find my wife in bed with the neighbor. And now, when I finally get the courage to kill myself, somebody drinks my poison. “

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  7. And, perhaps a timely crossover from the qtree —

    A Chinese farmer spent all his money on seeds, but they didn’t germinate — the seeds were fake.

    Facing financial ruin, he decided to kill himself and his whole family, so he put rat poison into the family dinner, but they all survived — the rat poison was fake.

    To celebrate the family’s miraculous survival, he served everybody wine and made a toast. After the drink they all died, from methanol poisoning — the wine was fake.

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