DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20210902 (The U Tree)

Given the situation at the usual site, TQT, this is our temporary headquarters. Some of our usual participants have not visited here to comment in the past, so their first comment will go into moderation when they stop by. Wolf will get everyone set up and approved as we progress through life here.

In the meantime, as we are in a holding pattern waiting for something, anything to happen, let me get this out of the way as it touched something in me.

Be still my heart. Just like my mother used to do. Correct syntax matters.

Alright, I know I said yesterday that I would deal with fear of losing a job meaning fear of losing oneself today, but Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has written another extraordinary letter about the COVID situation all the way around that is worth giving a day in court. Here’s a sample:

The criminal mens

Once it is understood that the present events have been intended in order to obtain certain results – and consequently to pursue certain interests on behalf of a minority part of humanity, with incalculable harm for the majority – we must also have the honesty to recognize the criminal mens [mind] of the authors of this plan. This criminal design also makes us understand the fraud perpetrated by civil authority in presenting certain measures as an unavoidable response to unpredictable events, when the events have been artfully created and magnified with the sole purpose of legitimizing a revolution – which Schwab identifies as the fourth industrial revolution – intended by the elite to the detriment of all humanity. The enslavement of authority is on the other hand the result of a process that began even earlier, with the French Revolution, and which made the political class the servant not of God (whose Lordship it disdainfully disregards) nor of the sovereign people (which it despises and uses only to legitimize itself), but of the economic and financial potentates, of the international oligarchy of bankers and usurers, of multinationals and pharmaceutical companies. In reality, on closer inspection, all these subjects belong to a small number of well-known very rich families.

Equal enslavement is also evident in the media: journalists have accepted – without any scruple of conscience – prostituting themselves to the powerful, going so far as to censor the truth and spread shameless lies without even trying to give them the appearance of credibility. Up until last year journalists counted the numbers of the “victims” of Covid by presenting anyone who tested positive as terminally ill; today those who die after being vaccinated are always and only taken by a vague “illness,” and even before the post mortem examinations they officially decide that there is no correlation between a person’s death and the administration of the gene serum. They twist the truth with impunity when it does not confirm their narrative, bending it to fit their purposes.

What has been happening for a year and a half had been widely announced, down to the smallest detail, by the creators of the Great Reset themselves; just as we were told the measures that would be adopted. On February 17, 1950, testifying before the United States Senate, the well-known banker James Warburg said, “We will have a world government, whether you like it or not. The only question that arises is whether this world government will be established by consensus or by force.” Four years later, the Bilderberg Group was born, which has counted among its members characters such as [Italian businessman Gianni] Agnelli, Henry Kissinger, Mario Monti, and the current Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi. In 1991, David Rockefeller wrote: “The world is ready for a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is certainly preferable to the national self-determination practiced in past centuries.” And he added: “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the ‘right’ global crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” Today we can affirm that this “right crisis” coincides with the pandemic emergency and with the “lockstep” outlined since 2010 by the Rockefeller Foundation document “Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development,” in which the events we are now witnessing are all anticipated (here).

In short, they have created a false problem in order to be able to impose population control measures as an apparent solution, cancel small and medium-sized businesses with lockdowns and the green pass to the benefit of a few international groups, demolish education by imposing distance learning, lower the cost of manpower and employees with “smart working,” privatize public health for the benefit of Big Pharma, and allow governments to use the state of emergency to legislate in derogation of the law and impose so-called vaccines on the entire population, making citizens traceable in all their movements and either chronically ill or sterile.

Everything the elite wanted to do, they have done. And what is incomprehensible is that in the face of the evidence of the premeditation of this terrible crime against humanity, which sees the leaders of almost the whole world as accomplices and traitors, there is not a single magistrate who opens a file against them to ascertain the truth and condemn the guilty and complicit. Those who disagree are not only censored but pointed out as public enemies, as infectors, as non-persons for whom no rights are recognized.

Whatever one does in life, getting on Vigano’s bad side would not be advisable.

Okay, let’s see what I’ve got.

This is why we are here.

And now for the business portion. While we are at the U Tree, there are a few changes:

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9And so, from the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10to lead a life worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. 11May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, 12giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. 13He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.


128 thoughts on “DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20210902 (The U Tree)

  1. OK – big news.

    I have COPIED this post back to the main site. I have opened up comments on all posts there.

    I would like you all to try BOTH SITES.

    I want a direct test of both sites by you all.

    It would be especially helpful if we had a LOT of people on the old site. That is likely to make it act up.

    If it starts acting up, we come back here.

    This will give me PROOF that the main site is NOT WORKING.


    Thank you.


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      1. Yeah, the function of The U Tree is a bit of a mess right now. Not a problem. If we can go back, great – it can resume its old function. But I am not that hopeful.

        The graphs on the server look horrible. But I want to have empirical proof that we’re still having problems. For that, we need to load people back onto the site.

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      1. I used my VPN’s server selector to change around my IP to see if I could get in. Third try got me in. Was it the net nanny business? Blocking me due to the IP of my VPN? Hmmmmm.

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      1. And you can chat with people on the other site, too, if we take an adaptive approach – specifically SCOTT467’s recommendation.

        He has always believed that QUOTING is the best way to reply, because it doesn’t depend on nesting.

        That is why, I believe, if you simply COPY and PASTE whoever you are replying to, as part of your reply at the bottom, people will SEE your reply and respond. You don’t have to do anything else – people will adapt and figure out how to make it work.

        Please give that a try and let’s see if that can help get around the problem.

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        1. Well, it’s a nice idea, and I’ve seen Scott do that, but I haven’t really mastered “copy and paste” yet. Maybe eventually. It’s something I’ve tried to learn.

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        1. Hi, Ozzy. Sorry it took me a while to get back here. I’ve been all over the place. Marica’s works for me, too, except notifications in email don’t always take me to the person’s comment, but U-tree does.

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  2. I heart that twit on top DP, esp since we are adjusting to being in school at home just the 2 of us.
    Thought you mught appreciate I added in music this year. Not 100% sure its great but, writing short info on a composer, watch or read a bio, and listen to a couple pieces off YouTube.
    I chose Debussy today. He said it reminds him of sleeping but he did like it.

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      1. Ty, nice of you. My weakness is science experiments. We tried to make rock candy and the sticks, after 3 days were moldy without crystals. Going to try some heat experiments with a thermometer tomorrow. I

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        1. You’ll get better at the science… ask Steve or Coothie or Wolfie for some suggestions, assistance. They would be thrilled to help I’m sure!

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          1. I can think of worse ideas than following Steve along the early parts of his series. How the Periodic Table came to be, came to predict, and only later came to reflect understanding is one of the joys of Chemistry.

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        2. Apropos heat and thermometers, that reminds me of an exchange in the comments on Hackaday from some years ago,

          Vic: 30 comments on a thermocouple? Must be too hot to play outside.
          JDRM: We want thermocouples to measure how bloody hot this heat wave is!

          Also, if you have used a glass thermometer to measure the temperature of hot oil, do not try to wash it with soap and water before it has cooled down.

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    1. We took our goddaughter on a trip to NYC. As might easily be imagined, we had major shortfalls of time in a variety of spots — one of which was the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Mind you, she had received a decent classical education (Waldorf).

      So we did a “lightning game” of the museum. Walk into the middle of a room, look around from a distance where you can’t read any of the plaques, and identify the country and the time or the theme of the room. Include “why” for potential partial credit and discussion. Check the facts, examine some favorites, and move on.

      If you walk into a room and go: “that’s a Velazquez! Spain, early 1600’s”, you’ve aced the room. If you go, “heavy Spanish influence, 1600s….”, you’d get about 90% for the room.

      It is way to easy to “beat a painting to death” through analysis.

      The same is true for music.

      Just comparing Baroque, Classical, Romantic — and tying them back into the nations championing each style. Showing how fashions moved across the continent….

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    2. The Debussy string quartet is quite nice, and influenced Ravel’s string quartet, the second movement of which starts off pizzicato and is beautiful as well. Comparing the two might be interesting.

      There are YouTubes with Debussy playing his own works (piano rolls) as well as Satie, Rachmaninoff, Saint-Saens, Franck, and, IIRC, Ravel. (I had an English chamber music coach who pronounced Ravel like rabble or gravel 🙂 but he loved the music)…

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      1. I had wanted him to play classical 🎸, but he likes the idea of piano. Course we don’t have one so he couldnt practice. Wish i could find proper instruction. Will use all those composers youve just quoted. 1 a week. 😺😺

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  3. 𝐉𝐨𝐞 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐧’𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐧.

    His installation is the biggest Fraud ever perpetrated on this country…and the world.

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  4. This was discussed late last night and I want to make sure everyone sees it because it WILL BE USED AGAINST POTUS!


    This is even worse: Here’s WHY They Killed Your Grandmother in forum [Market-Ticker-Nad]


    “If the hospital or physician refuses to treat you with anything other than Remdesivir (which has an EUA still outstanding despite failing said trials), dexamethasone, oxygen and a ventilator (which, you remember, Trump bought tens of thousands of for this explicit purpose under the DPA) they are immune from all legal action you may take due to their negligence, even if they KNOW there are other treatment options that, on the science, work….


    Essentially the PREP Act worked the same way the Stafford Act did in by making Faucci untouchable, except here it made the HHS proscribed treatment plan untouchable. Sure you heard about some Doctors trying work things into the protocol like vit C but those additional treatments would be considered safe enough to have not violated the PREP Act.

    This is going to be used to BASH TRUMP!

    Karl Denninger already does:

    …..HHS killed every single person denied care and treatments by direct decree as they not only pay the hospitals $30,000+ to put you on a ventilator they immunized the hospitals from legal action if and only if they refused to treat you with anything not on the FDA’s “approved” list.


    Both of them, all of HHS, every member of Congress and every clinician and hospital involved from your local physician on up to every hospital following those protocols are murderous pricks who, between them, agreed to let you die on purpose and use proved-worthless and dangerous drugs to avail themselves of a liability shield put forward by HHS and authorized, years prior, by Congress.

    Every one of these people — including every single Congressperson who did not revoke the PREP Act (or demand HHS remove that clause under pain of doing so) — is a mass-murderer….

    To understand what actually happened you have to look at the DOCUMENT. REMEMBER Government BueauRATS can use REGULATIONS to MAKE LAWS without going through congress. All they have to do is put the proposed law regulation up in the Federal Registrar where it will get buried.

    The small stack on the top is the laws for the year BTW.
    2014: Senator Mike Lee Compares 80,000 Pages of New Regulations Published in Federal Register with Laws Passed by Congress and Signed by President


    Notice: This HHS-approved document has been submitted to the Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for publication and has not yet been placed on public display or published in the Federal Register. The document may vary slightly from the published document if minor editorial changes are made during the OFR review process. The document published in the Federal Register is the official HHS-approved document
    On January 31, 2020, the Secretary declared a public health emergency pursuant to section 319 of the PHS Act, 42 U.S.C. 247d, effective January 27, 2020, for the entire United States to aid in the response to the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID–19) outbreak, which subsequently became a global pandemic. Pursuant to section 319 of the PHS Act, the Secretary renewed that declaration on April 21, 2020, July 23, 2020, and October 2, 2020. On March 10, 2020, the Secretary issued a declaration under the PREP Act for medical countermeasures against COVID–19.1 On April 10, the Secretary amended the Declaration to extend liability protections to Covered Countermeasures authorized under the CARES Act.2 On June 4, the Secretary amended the Declaration to clarify that Covered Countermeasures under the Declaration include qualified pandemic and epidemic products that limit the harm that COVID-19 might otherwise cause.3 On August 19, the Secretary amended the Declaration to add additional categories of Qualified Persons and to amend the category of disease, health condition, or threat for which he recommends the administration or use of Covered Countermeasures.4

    The Secretary now further amends the Declaration pursuant to section 319F–3 of the Public Health Service Act. This Fourth Amendment to the Declaration:….

    Who was HHS Sec

    Alex Azar was confirmed by a 55-43 vote, to replace Tom Price who resigned in the fall of 2017.

    Azar is the former president of Eli Lilly & Co.’s US operations, where he spent five years overseeing the production of medications, including Cialis, Cymbalta, and several forms of insulin. From 2012 to 2017, Azar was president of the U.S. division of Eli Lilly and Company, a major drug company, and a member of the board of directors of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization, a large pharmaceutical trade association….

    On April 25, 2020, multiple media outlets reported that the White House was weighing a plan to oust Azar due to frustrations over his response to the COVID-19 pandemic.[48][49][50][51] The following day, President Trump tweeted that such reports were “Fake News” and that he has no plans to replace Azar.[52][53][54]

    Azar picked Brian Harrison, a 37-year old former Labradoodle breeder who had no formal education in public health or related fields, but who had worked in the HHS for six years, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the coronavirus.[55]

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    As secretary of Health and Human Services, Azar was responsible for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a key institution in charge of containing contagious diseases….

    “…Health and Human Services secretary Alex Azar submitted his resignation in a letter to President Trump on January 12, citing the pro-Trump riot at the Capitol last week…” — Yahoo news

    Trump should have replaced Azar.

    I wonder if he was one of the losers recommended by Pence? Quite possibly

    ….9. He has ties to Vice President Mike Pence
    Eli Lilly is based in Indiana, the home state of Pence.

    “I know [Pence] thinks highly of Alex—a lot of us in Indiana do,” Bob Grand, a longtime Pence donor, told Politico. A second Politico article noted that Azar has been a longtime Pence supporter….

    6. He knows the inner workings of HHS because he’s already worked for the agency
    Azar served as the general counsel for HHS from 2001 to 2005, and during his tenure The Washington Post reported that he assisted with the George W. Bush administration’s response to 9/11, as well as the anthrax attacks and health issues, including a stem cell policy and Medicare prescription drug benefits. He then became the deputy secretary under then-HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt, a position he held for two years.

    The Post said he advocated for price transparency associated with medical services and supported efforts to convert medical records from paper to electronic form during that stint. He was confirmed for both HHS positions by a unanimous voice vote.

    Azar is a lawyer and he is BUSH SWAMP

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    1. Thank you, Gail. I also have a question. Did you post a place one can buy the good kind of ivermectin horse paste, and what was the name of the better one, brand, I mean, realizing you are not pretending to be a doctor. I just want it for informational purposes. Thank you.

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  5. Gail,

    I cannot locate any quercetin locally, so I am substituting green tea until I can obtain quercetin. Do you know HOW MUCH green tea I should drink daily with the zinc? Also I could find zinc concentrate but in 50 mg only, and iirc one must be careful not to take too much zinc. I plan to split the tabs so that I will be taking 25 mg daily. Is that enough?

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        1. phoenix…YW! These people are rock solid, and, imo, are trustworthy…in seemingly simple things such as dosages in tablets/capsules. Many times, since the MDR is, well, ???, one has questions ab, How much should I take? Zinc is a great example: what I call off-brands may have a wide range of potency in their products, whereas the potency of Solgar products is more aligned w therapeutic dosages, given that we are all different.
          Its a luxury in my mind, to have confidence in the dosage strength produced by a Manufacturer as being a suitable therapeutic dose.
          Solgar also always has a valid justification according to all herbal references, for their occasional combination of herbal material indicated for whatever use.
          Hope you enjoy visiting them!

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          1. I went to their website, bookmarked it also. Will order quercertin in the a.m. Again, thank you for suggesting them. Invisible friends are da bomb!

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  6. Q) The Storm Rider /Official Page


    Dr Judy Mikovits joins Mike Adams and she’s dismayed, that despite all of her best efforts to warn people for the past year and the best efforts of people like Dr Luc Montagnier, Dr Dolores Cahill, Dr Sherri Tenpenny and many others who predicted this mass murder, and yet it happened, anyway.

    “100 million Americans have been injected with a synthetic virus with…the most dangerous spike protein, consisting of HIV, XMRV and SARS.”


    She reminds us that the lab origins of the current pandemic are hardly novel; that every “pandemic” has had lab origins since 1984, when Anthony Fauci started working at the NIAID, starting with AIDS.

    “HIV/AIDS; you’ll remember the story of how we were lied to by Tony Fauci, Bob Gallo, the people at the top of NIH, CDC, FDA, even then. So the scenario, the game plan is exactly the same…

    “We knew the spike protein, alone, the envelope protein, alone is the disease, so they can all backtrack, because they just injected everyone in the world with a synthetic deadly virus. They injected the poison. The word ‘virus’ means ‘poison’ and they injected it into everybody in the world, so they can back off now, because they’ve accomplished their end game. You will have customers for life and you will succeed at mass-murder.

    “You’re going to kill everyone with HIV, you’re going to kill the 6% of America that had XMRV, when we were supposedly debunked. Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Virus is the mouse’s syncytin gene. So we knew the mouse virus was in everybody from the vaccines. We knew the flu vaccine put people at risk of dying of COVID…what I think what everybody has to wake up to is NEVER, EVER, EVER get another shot and we will never, ever, ever see another pandemic.


    “We’ve been creating these in our labs my entire career. This was my job.” She says their motivation is “To kill people and cover up these crimes. Remember, they’re cremating people, so you can’t realize it was the vaccine strain, so you can’t realize that we were right in 2011, in 1984…

    “When our paper, that was ultimately published in Science, in October of 2009…and the entire upper echelons of the government realized that these things were coming out of our laboratories and they re-wrote history then. They called it…an ‘unintended spread of a Biosafety Level 2 contaminant.’

    “It’s not ‘Biosafety Level 2’, when it’s contagious cancer, contagious prostate cancer, contagious ovarian cancer, lung cancer! And who are the people now, who they’re inoculating? We never inoculated an AIDS patient! They have an acquired immune dysfunction or deficiency! They can’t make an appropriate antibody or immune response of any kind, that’s why they’re sick. So why, now would you inject them, if the intention is now to kill them and call it ‘COVID’ – it’s not COVID! You created the cancer. You created the disease and now you’re murdering the victims to cover up your crimes…

    “We’ve been lied to for 40 years…[HIV] was spread by a Hepatitis vaccination program with a contaminated vaccine. Who dies in the first wave of HIV? All the people that had HIV and XMRV; mouse viruses from a contaminated blood supply. This is what our book showed…

    You can’t mix animal tissue, aborted fetal tissue; that you’re actually injecting into the most vulnerable people another animal’s virome..And other viruses..

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      1. Same to you Zoe. I read about your situation with your friends. Can’t even express how sad I am for you. As so many have expresses though, real friends would not do that. And as so many have expressed, we are all facing similar situations. (I hate saying that to you, as it doesn’t make you feel one iota better I am sure) Seems our invisible ‘friends’ are often times better friends than those in real life (whatever that is!). Know that I am praying for you, for all of us (myself included)… (((Zoe)))

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        1. Thank you, PR, and I know I’m not the only one having these situations, though even my vaccinated friends, the real ones, are quite shocked by this behaviour.

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    1. Sorry for the delay. Took me forever to get your comment bumped out of the bin. Your next comment either here or on should not get stuck in moderation, but if it does, it will get out quickly.

      Bluntly, it came in in a bunch of spam and got set aside with the spam. I think one comment even got permanently deleted with spam – sorry about that.

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    1. … nope .. no bell 🛎 on home page 📄 .. 🙂 … I’ll just toggle between the two. I am logged into WordPress ..

      .. it’s all good man .. 😎👍

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        1. Daaang, flat out refusing MWAH??

          Hmmm… can’t reach this refused to connect.

          Checking the connection
          Checking the proxy and the firewall


          Check your Internet connection
          Check your network cables, modem, and routers.
          Allow Microsoft Edge to access the network in your firewall or antivirus settings.
          If it’s already listed as a program allowed to access the network, try removing it from the list, and adding it again.
          If you use a proxy server:
          Check your proxy settings. You might need to ask your organization if the proxy server is working. If you don’t think you should be using a proxy server, go to Settings > System > Open your computer’s proxy settings

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